Episode Transcript
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Netgen Report. I'm your host, Pablo. And joining me, as always, is Mister Bryan Schultz.
When you make money, Brian, you have a lot of say, and it's already begun.
You got Ryan Reynolds talking about when I read that, I was like, here we go.
Here we go. And I was like, mahershala, yo. If I was, if I saw Mahershala met, I would be screaming to the top of my lungs, yo, get out, man. Get out. Because you being made a mockery.
They made a joke at your expense.
And now Ryan Reynolds is talking about Wesley Snipes deserves his own Logan film.
Where does that leave you?
It's just, it's time for him to go. But, and also now you have.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Chad.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: And Tatum talking about, we can do this. Gambit. You saw the reaction.
That's what he's saying. I'm not saying.
I'm not saying that. Oh, great. I mean, he got a good reaction, but come on.
I'm. I don't think I want to see a whole movie with subtitles of what he's trying to tell us of chatting Tatum with Gambit.
I'm not interested in a story with him.
Right.
Do you think, do you think it's possible that Ryan Reynolds has enough pull now to make that movie happen?
Blade movie. Forget about chanting. That's not gonna happen.
But Blade, Brian, Ryan Reynolds has a lot of pull. Brian, does that happen?
[00:02:00] Speaker B: Oh, are we there yet?
Well, listen, as you say, there's a critical difference between these two post Deadpool and Wolverine fallouts. One has Ryan Reynolds blessing and backing. The other does not. I mean, that's really what you need to pay attention to. So let's get the quote out there that the post on Instagram, we can dig into it. This is Ryan Reynolds. The reaction when Wesley Snipes enters the movie is the most intense thing I've heard in a theater. People screaming with uninhibited joy and love is also the sound of a legacy. More blade, please. A Logan style send off specifically.
Listen, if you are, you're. You're. You're walking around now as the owner of the highest grossing r rated movie in history. So, yeah, I mean, you got a shot.
At the very least. At the very least, right? To draw a parallel from the movie, we can swap out happy Hogan for Kevin Feige and Bob Iger, and Ryan Reynolds can be on the other side of the desk making his pitch. Like, at the very least, that conversation will happen. They will tell you, oh, yes. Now, taking that call and green lighting the project would almost certainly require fully scrapping the Ali Blade project, which they are in for some dollars. Right? I don't care what anyone says. They've spent money, built sets, they scheduled shoots, multiple directors, multiple scripts. Like, that's not a freebie. And I'm sure Mahersla's got some kind of money that he's been guaranteed already just to have the part so far out some cash. If they do this, I also think if they do it, if they do it DC style, which is you say that you can have more than one else worlds, or whatever you want to call it, I think it dooms the Ali Blade project commercially because, oh, yeah, if nothing else, this will be a cult hit. It might even be a legit hit.
And quite honestly, if it's done in the style with kind of, you know, Reynolds and Snipes having more say and kind of being more true to the spirit of that blade universe, it's probably going to be liked better compared to what we heard so far.
Yeah, I don't know if he can pull it off. I probably would say the chances are, like one in four to one in three that he can get it that far. But the longer the Alie Blade project doesn't happen, I would say the better odds that this does happen. What do you think? You want it? Do you want to see it.
[00:04:50] Speaker A: At this point?
Yeah, I'd rather see that than the promised Blade movie of five years ago, that the reaction wasn't even as big as the one that Blade got for this movie.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, for sure.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: That reaction, talking about what he's, that reaction, Brian was huge. Brian eyes. I dabbed a dude that was sitting next to me. I didn't even know him.
You know that. Why wouldn't people. I'm, listen, executives are hearing that and seeing that already, thinking dollars.
Everybody that cheered is a paying customer.
Every theater that cheered is a pain customer. Brian, what we've seen from, or what we've heard from the Mahershala Ali movie is just delays, delays, delays, delays is like we don't even care anymore right now. We just want, I just want him to leave because he doesn't deserve this. I don't know what's going on behind the scene. I don't know if it's him. I don't know. I don't know. But he doesn't need to do this film anymore.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: You know, you could also argue that I think one of the parallels that Reynolds is drawing there is not totally unfair, which is that you know, he, he and Snipes co starred in what was clearly the worst of the three, Trinity's. Trinity was not a good ending, though. Blood hunt, the first one, those are. Those are good movies. The last one is not. So you could argue there is unfinished business if they're trying to put a bow on, on that franchise in a way that Hugh Jackman was constantly searching for that proper swan song as Logan and finally got it in Logan.
So, you know, look, I don't. I don't think the budget would be huge, but then again, they're like, they only wanted to budget a hundred million for the, the Ali Blade movie. So if you gave the same hundred million to a sniped blade movie, could he get. Could that get you 200 5300? I think it could.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Five and a bunch.
[00:07:01] Speaker B: I mean, the first, the first two made kind of like around 200 5300 global. When nobody knew what superhero movies were supposed to be in, like 1990s, like 1990, $8. So, like, this one probably could get you.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Oh, definitely.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: Especially if they keep the tone and they kind of have, you know, they put it in the hands of a good action director. Yeah. Like, I think there's enough steam here that it could work again.
He also kind of gave you the proof. Like, that's the thing. Like, if they just announced this out of the blue, I'd be much more skeptical. Goal. The fact that you saw him for however many scenes he had, and you kind of were like, yeah, he still kind of can be a grizzled blade. He still could deliver the lines and he can still deliver some kicks and punches believably. Years. That I think is the biggest thing that, like, as much as you cheer at the first scene, you kind of left the movie being like, he still kind of has it. He still has it in the bag. Yeah.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: So that's what makes me think, like, initially, I think Wesley Snipes was in communication with the MCU about possibly doing a Blade movie, and Yoshin Ali made that phone call, and that was a wrap.
And that was a wrap. I'm confident in that being the case, Brian, because of how that transpired, how Wesley responded to a lot of those things. And I'm pretty sure there was communication about possibly coming back as blade, and then that comment was made.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: Also, correct me if I'm wrong, I gotta look this up while we're talking, but I believe the John Wick director wanted to do blade and got turned down.
Chad Stahelski.
I'm pretty sure he lobbied Marvel to do, like, a hard action blade movie. And they said no. Cause they wanted to do the Ali version.
Make that call now. Put him with snipes and with Reynolds producing, and let's. Let's go to war one more time. You know, I.
He can't do it for a long time. That's the only thing, right? That's the only thing. But I don't know. It'd be hand off the part.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: Hand it off to his.
They can hand off the part to what they initially wanted to do.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: That's what I'm asking. What about him doing that? And they kind of salvage a little bit of their idea.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: That would be appropriate. That would be appropriate. Why wouldn't that be appropriate? Because it would be a fail if they would give it to Blake, to Ali, and then hand it off. And it's like, we only get one shot with Blade, with Ali, and that's it. With, at least with Wesley stuff, we can understand that route.
But again, if you go that route, then we get no more blade. We get his daughter for the rest. Unless, you know, everything's gonna restart. Nothing set in stone with the MCU anymore.
But it would be, I guess, appropriate until this, until after secret wars, where you can do whatever it is that you're gonna do in terms of resetting.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: I think Reynolds would make that argument. He would say, look, we just did it with Hugh Jackman. Like, this has no, this has no bearing on whatever Wolverine, Kevin Feige, and Marvel want to do going forward. This is entirely backward looking, but makes us money in the meantime.
The casualty of that is clearly the Ali rendition of this. It just doesn't work.
You'd have to, as you say, wrap things up with the snipes blade. Wait. And then you would have to introduce new blade. Whatever happens at the end of the snipes blade would then be like, your new blade storyline kind of going forward. So, I mean, yeah, I. But I just, again, how does, you know, it's, like, beginning of, like, Rambo two when he's in, like, the prison chopping the rocks and, like, Troutman gets him out, and he's like. He's like, sir, do we get to win this time? How does Mahershal Ali get to win? He just knows there's no scenario where he gets to win.
[00:11:08] Speaker A: Nah, nah.
I was watching, I was watching first blood today.
Great movie. Great movie.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:11:18] Speaker A: Great movie. He should have won a. At least a nomination for that. The ending point, nothing is over. Nothing.
Just don't turn it off.
I almost got that whole line down pack because it was so good. Um, chatting Tatum. Brian, this, this his, he's a little bit overzealous in that, you know. Yeah, you got a crowd reaction, but that is based on the visualization of you being as gambit. And nothing else is based on nothing other than what was rumored and what we saw.
And it didn't look bad, other than it, I couldn't see a whole movie, him looking like a cosplay. That whole outfit didn't, it was just straight out of the comic books.
[00:12:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it was comics accurate. But I thought it was deliberately made to look a little silly. Yes, yes. I think that was not an accident. I think, like, they knew when they built it for him. You're gonna be a little bulky. It is gonna look like a Halloween costume. It's just gonna have all the elements of Remy LeBeau's actual outfit. But, like, if you were doing a serious gambit movie, you might have those. That costume would have been made differently.
But I don't think it's like, you know, he's doing, again, I think he's doing kind of a campy, hammed up version of the character. I don't think that's what I want to see in an actual gambit movie. It works in a deadpool and Wolverine stick. It doesn't work as its own standalone.
[00:12:57] Speaker A: Don't even want to see a gambit movie. I don't care who plays it.
[00:13:00] Speaker B: No, I tend to agree. Like, why are we doing that instead of focusing on the Xenore building up the X Men?
[00:13:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: But he's, you know, again, he sees the dollar signs at the box office and he's got hopes.
He's got hopes.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Oh, man. It's like he is like another chance. I got another chance because he was disappointed apparently, the first time when he was turned down or when they buried it. And then, and now he has this sort of revival and this possibility of, or do people really want to see it? I don't think so. But whatever. It's not like we want to see an electra joint either.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: No.
[00:13:42] Speaker A: You know, it's like, well, you don't.
[00:13:44] Speaker B: See her asking for it.
No, I think, I mean, the fairness of Shannon Tatum, who, as I said, I'm not a huge fan, but he was robbed. I mean, if you're, they announced the movie. They greenlit the movie. They sent him to Comic Con to promote the movie and then the can, and they canceled it. Like, you don't remember, like they did a panel. So, like, in fairness to him, this. This wasn't like, this wasn't a Mahersh necessarily even a Marshall Lee situation where it was, like, stuck in develop. Like, they had a plan. They had. Now they had their story. Like, everything was on track, and literally, the merger killed it. So, like, wow, he was robbed of something that was going to happen.
Oh, got it. Yeah, but that doesn't mean I want to see it. No, no, no.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: Especially. Not especially right now with all of. Because, listen, whenever the X Men comes out, it cannot falter. And we said to say that with every movie that they're gonna do, it can't fault or can't. This. The X Men is something you.
It can't, because we expect thunderbolts or captain. Captain America for. Not to. To. Especially Captain America four not to be good. We expect certain things not to be good, but with X Men, we expect a next level up of what we've gotten in the past.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I think it's also part of the reason our hopes are lower for brave new world and thunderbolts is that those are, in some ways, have become legacy projects. These are projects that were already done in the same umbrella of which we've seen Marvel produce subparental product, whereas X Men is on the come. It hasn't happened yet. So they have. They have a chance to really reset, reboot, do things, you know, right and proper. Like, they have all that opportunity in front of them. So we expect more. And obviously, the legacy of these characters certainly, you know, in animated form, and then even to a lesser extent, there are very high points within, I think, some of the movies that have been done individual portrayals, individual moments, like, you know, I don't know that they've nailed it. Nailed it, like, across the board, but, like, this is not a franchise that was. Has been terrible, and it's certainly been profitable. So, yeah. Should be high. Like, you should be. You should be thinking, these are billion dollar movies when you. When you go. Go make.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:12] Speaker A: So let us know in the comment section below what you guys, what you guys think of a possible Wesley Snipes blade. I'm all for it. He looks like he can do it.
He thinks he could probably do it. I'm pretty sure he wanted to do it better.
[00:16:25] Speaker B: Can I just say, I bet you if they did announce it, he would look, sound and move better, because there's a big difference between being brought in for a day or two to shoot a couple scenes and do a cameo.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: And giving him time to get prepared.
That muscle memory will come back. Those martial arts move will come back. You'll get all the stretches, all the stem cell stuff, all that stuff done so you can get back at it. So let's see. Let's see. And also let us know in the comment section below. Do you actually, would, would you actually like to see a chatting Channing Tatum Gambit movie for us here?
[00:17:07] Speaker B: No.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: And I doubt there's any of you out there that would like to see. And if you do want to see it, tell us why it can't be because of Channing Tatum.
You know what I'm saying? What story would you tell regarding damage? Like, I don't know, but let us know in the comment section below what you guys think, and we'll see you next time on another J report.
