Episode Transcript
[00:00:03] Speaker A: Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Nerdgend Report. I'm your host, Pablo. And joining me, as always, is Mister Bryan shows Brian DC.
A lot of stuff going on with DC Bryan.
Colin Farrell already setting the stage for the reasons we won't probably see another season. Keanu Reeves signing up for another movie. Constantine two. I didn't. I never saw Constantine.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: Warren.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: Brian, I think you said you liked the movie. I know Tracy liked the movie. And then, Brian, Sergeant Rock this one, Brian, is going to be very interesting. Not because of the character, Brian, because of the name.
Let's get into it. Colin Farrell already saying it.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: What he said, well, so Colin Farrell is, how shall I put this? Mercurial. He's always been that way throughout his career. He speaks his mind and he obviously, we love his portrayal as Oz, but, and he was very, if you go back, he was very excited when they announced this Penguin show and we're kind of giving him his shine outside of the Batmandhead. But he got to the end of filming the first season. Now he's out promoting it as we're about to get it here. And he, they asked him about a second season after the creators of the show basically said the door is open for that because they confirmed, like, okay, so you get this season, he's got a small role. They said it's a small role in Batman two. And they said the door is open. They could do a second season.
And then he said this.
I don't know, man. Don't get me wrong. I loved it, but it got in on me a little bit. And by the end, I was bitching and moaning to anyone who would listen to me that I just effing wanted it to be finished, end quote.
I mean, maybe time will heal that a little bit. But he sounds over it to me.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: You know, I saw on instagram a time lapse of him getting his makeup done.
I can't imagine every day for hours, just sitting and just getting that stuff done and then being all uncomfortable. It's a tough task. But he did it. He did it well when he had the opportunity the first time, this was going to probably was obviously going to take a lot more of those days because of what he was doing when he signed himself up to the praise that he got for his character and perhaps money that he got right. So enough is enough when you get to that point of, I can't do this every single day. I'm doing it because I have to now, but after this is done is I'm done.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: Yeah. And the performance suffers. I think he's also kind of saying there is a big difference between asking me to show up a few days for the film and put on the makeup and having me show up for a few months to shoot a season. Those are very different requirements because the end goes on to say, he's talking about Lauren LeFrank, who's the showrunner, and he said, quote, Lauren said, look, if I could find a way that makes sense, meaning the second season, would you talk about it? And I said, absolutely. And maybe in a year I would, but when I finished, I was like, I never want to put that effing student effing head on again. End quote.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: There's a wrap.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: I think it is code for he would do it in the Reeves movies because it's a shorter commitment. I don't think he wants to do four seasons, eight to ten episodes it as the character. That's what he's kind of signaling.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Gotcha.
[00:03:35] Speaker B: As opposed to I will never be Oz ever again.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that makes sense.
[00:03:42] Speaker B: Hopefully, reviews are good. Reviews of the show have been good. Like, so, I mean, it comes out well. We're taping this two, three days before it comes out.
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Oh, okay.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: Or two days before it comes out. Actually. Sorry. Two days. Four comes out.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. Wow.
[00:03:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: Brian. Keanu Reeves has signed up for Constantine two. Brian, why is this happening? I know the money. Probably because he, Keanu Reeves, did like or enjoy or likes his character, enjoy playing the character. So why not come for a second one? He's been doing it for every other movie. Right.
So are there.
I mean, there are fans of Keanu Reeves who would go see this, and obviously fans of the movie, but are there enough out there, Brian?
And do you have hopes for this movie to be well received?
[00:04:48] Speaker B: So Constantine wondehethere came out in 2005. That is kind of in the limbo period of superhero filmmaking. Right. It's the same year as Batman. It's like same year as Batman begins. We haven't gotten the MCU yet. We're coming off of X Men, the last stand. The best thing going, honestly, is, is Tobey Maguire's Spider Man. Spider man two had come out the year before, so it's kind of, like, got a little lost in the shuffle.
I think it's solid. It's not spectacular, but it's got good acting in it. Like, Keanu looks like he's doing sort of like a mystical version of his neo character, like the way he dresses and kind of acts. They had Tilda Swinton as a supporting character. I think a young Shia LaBeouf was kind of like comic relief. Like, they have a pretty good cast. It's not that bad of a movie. It's not great, but it's not that bad. However, it is one of those that has become like a cult classic in the 20 years since. People have definitely come back to it, and that's why there's always been this little groundswell of, maybe they should do it, maybe they're going to do it. Now, let's be clear. He has said, number one, he would do it. I don't think we have confirmation that he is actually signed. He's just always said he would. What has changed is a finished script has been turned into DC. That kind of came out of nowhere. I didn't realize that they were that close on that. So apparently, James Gunn is reading a finished script proposal for Constantine two. And what we don't know is, was this positioned as elseworlds, or is this because a lot of people are speculating? Constantine is pretty close to swamp thing, and swamp thing is one of the DCU projects that they're working on with James Mangold, that they might move Constantine into the main DCU as part of this. So that's sort of the TBD. That's where we're at a script for. So we get plastic man, like, two weeks ago, gets resuscitated from the dead, I the Darren Abernofsky plastic man, and now we get a script turned in for Constantine two, and then we'll get to the other one. You mentioned, sergeant Rock. We're getting kind of far afield here in the DC universe. Like, what's going on here?
[00:06:55] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying, man. You start thinking to yourself, this James Gunn just going crazy thinking everything is gonna Superman. He must think, Superman is gonna be so dope, Brian, that I'm gonna be able to do anything and everything, no.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: Matter who owns the company, because that's gonna be.
Yeah, we get there, Brian.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: So you met you as you would talk, as you were talking about running down that list, and I was thinking the same thing is like, what are we doing now? We have a character I did not know nothing about. I thought it was some rock movie. And then I look it up, and Brian and I was talking to Tracy about it, he was like, yeah, this character is almost taken from Captain America, but he's a, you know, he's just a soldier, a soldier that everybody respects and who knows how he has disabilities or whatever.
[00:07:59] Speaker B: He just got him sergeant Rock has been around Hollywood for almost 40 years. This has been one of those things that a lot of people have taken a shot at, and it's never gotten to the screen because he's like a comic book character. That's not really a comic book character. That's how I would describe it. Like, this is a comic book character where you basically are gonna make a war movie.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: And you can make it serious. You can make it whatever. But just to give you a sense of, like, history, both Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger at one point were attached to be Sergeant Rock. DC has a couple of these. So, like, remember, there's been that longstanding rumor that Steven Spielberg wanted to do Blackhawk, which was like, that's like a World War Two flying DC property. In fact, if you guys remember in the animated series, when they go back in time and fight Vandal Savage, the Blackhawks make an appearance in that. Fighting alongside the Avengers. They cut this kind of, like. Or, sorry, went alongside the Justice League. There's a cameo from them.
I think what gives this project some credibility, and I think it would be elseworlds, it is Luca Guadagnino who wants to do it. This feels like it's coming from him that he, along with his writer partner for challengers, a wild movie that came out earlier this year, they apparently approached James Gunn in the studio and said, we have an idea for a period piece, a world war two piece based on sergeant rock. So that feels like elseworlds to me, if they do it, because Luca Guadagnino is a big deal.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
Right.
When I read the description of who this person was, I'm like, this is interesting. Not gonna lie. This is very interesting how. How they're able to pull this off if they can.
But the name, Brian. Let's get down to the name, Brian.
If Sergeant Rock, this movie becomes popular, Brian, you already know who's gonna be highly upset. Brian, because the rock is no longer synonymous with the rock. It's sergeant rock. Brian, this is going to. Oh, man, this is gonna be pure comedy and entertainment to hear. To hear the word sergeant rock and not be associated with the rock. Brian. That's what's gonna be going. Having him go crazy.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: And it is a little odd that he never attempted to do this, right, like, just for the. Just for the. The promotional aspect of this being so.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: Obvious and easy, because he's the rock, Brian.
He's the rock.
Not some character that he's the rock.
[00:10:44] Speaker B: I think it's weird. I mean, if nothing else, it's going to be the most memeable thing you have ever seen. When this comes out of, depending on who they get to do this again, Guadala makes artsy stuff. He makes serious stuff.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: Like, what is he made again?
[00:10:59] Speaker B: Challengers. Call me by your name. Like, this is a guy who, like, goes for the Oscars with some weird stuff. Like the idea of him making like a gritty war movie set in World War Two based on a comic book is really out there. So this must be personal to him in some way. History would say the Academy likes war movies, right? 1970s, saving Private Ryan. Like, this is a long history of, like, if you can do something like this, then you can get attention for awards. And if that's the pitch to me, that's what if I'm making the argument for what DC is doing, there's a little bit of star hunting from the director's chair going on, right. It's like I've got Darren Aronowski, I've got Luca Guadagnino. Like, who? Like, that's what they're kind of, I got Craig Gillespie, who's not a huge name, but it's sort of an art house guy doing, doing the Supergirl movie. Like, that's kind of what they look like they're doing a little bit and.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: They'Re going for it, Brian.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:53] Speaker A: With serious intent and not goofiness. Yeah.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: The showrunners, right? They have for lanterns right there. I think, like, if we accuse Kevin of kind of star hunting in the lead roles of his projects, I think these guys are star hunting for who's creating the stuff. And you could argue that's a better hit rate if you can convince huge directors and writers to do stuff for you.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: Interesting.
I would like a weird universe.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: I mean, these things see the light of day. You imagine like a DC Universe where it's like we got Superman and we've got, you know, brave and the bold, plus the Batman. Then we got lanterns. But then over here we got like, creature commandos. We've got, like, plastic man, we've got, like, booster gold. We've got, like, you know, Sergeant Rock in Constantine. Like, that's a wild and wacky place.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
To me, it sounds like the end of the superhero genre.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: It doesn't sound that cohesive. To me, it sounds like the you guys, you guys criticized how interconnected the universe is. So we're going to go the other way.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: It sounds very, it sounds like very much the end, Brian.
They're trying to make that. They're really trying to go for it.
They're really trying to go for is how I see it. And. And also is that, you know, James Gunn is trying to make some other characters that you wouldn't know, popular. Same way.
[00:13:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: You know, Marvel did it somewhat, you know, outside of the regular Marvelous Marvel comic book fans that knew these characters.
Freaking Tony Stark is a household name, man.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Thor, all these, you know, the Avengers were not an a list team before these movies came along.
[00:13:48] Speaker A: There you go. And DC record. Well, James Gunn's. James Gunn recognizes that, and certainly Zaslav recognizes the potential of that.
[00:13:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that to the point about creators, I do think there's an argument and, you know, to be made for. We're at this point in the superhero genre where you have to subvert it somehow. You have to reinvent it. You have to do things unexpected. Right. So the case for. Is the Batman was an unexpected take on the world. It's very dark, very serious joker. We'll see how successful it is. But, like, they've gone off the deep end with that. Right. And so you get a director who's very different, who's going to make a war movie for you. Yeah. Like, that's gonna be the pitch. It's like, look what we can do. Look, this is technically a superhero movie, but look what we can do with it. We can make saving private Ryan in the context of DC.
That's what they're, I think, hoping will happen. And then. Yeah. Hitting. Hitting, you know, hitting the drive down the center of the fairway is. Is stuff like Superman. Right. That's still the classic. So, by the way, I will say it does look like they. I don't know if it's a hit. I don't.
They do look to have succeeded massively in one key area, which is the Christopher Reed documentary. 100. 100 over 100.
[00:15:03] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: And everyone says it is a really, really interesting introspective and exploration of him as a man. Like, what it means to be a hero, what it means to be that part.
So that's coming out in theaters two days only.
[00:15:23] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:15:24] Speaker B: But then we'll be on Max after that. So.
[00:15:30] Speaker A: That'S interesting, Brian.
That's interesting. Hopefully. I mean, two days only. Hopefully. Man, those people that go get a treat.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: I'm gonna try to make. To go. I think I'm. The second date is the one I'm. I think I'm gonna be able to make. So I'm gonna try to make an effort to go see it.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:15:48] Speaker B: On the big screen. I'll see it. Obviously, on, online.
[00:15:52] Speaker A: On another note, way outside of left field, get this announcement that Jared Leto wants to play skeletal.
Brian, I will not say that I'm not interested. I am curious about this because you know there's going to be a performance, right?
What kind of performance? I have no idea, but that's what I'm most not excited, Brian, but most curious to see, again, this whole he man stuff. Man, whether it works or not, it can work if you don't take yourself too seriously. If you make this serious, forget about it. It's over. Come on, Mandy. Grand, man.
[00:16:40] Speaker B: Really, what a great toy, by the way, growing up. I just want to say, with those legs, that would pop out.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: Come on, man at arms, they're you already in the first he man movie. They try to play women at arms. And look, I'm like, what are we doing this? That's. You put that in the final, in the end game scene when the a force, the Avengers walking together, you throw that in that bucket of for them. You know, I'm saying, I don't know. I've always said that if he man needs to be visually in terms of where they are and how things happen, or it has to be sort of like Pandora, right? An avatar. It has to be that. That world has to be a character also in, in that movie. Oh. Because if you bring me back to around the block is over.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: So if Earth make gets even a mention in this movie, it's a lost cause.
[00:17:44] Speaker A: But that's the problem. Brian, I heard this. I heard it was something like that. Brian, I heard something. Hopefully I'm wrong. Grain of salt, right? Grain of salt.
[00:17:54] Speaker B: Just keep an unimaginative, you know, it's just lazy. To your point, we don't know what we'll get if he's been offered the role. Hasn't said yes.
Look, I mean, I'm sure part of the reason they offered him the role is he kind of looks a little bit like the character.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: Interesting, skeletal. He can make. He could be. That could be his joke. Mark Hamill. You know what? Mark Hamill was the joker. Jared Leto could be that skeleton.
[00:18:17] Speaker B: The problem I have with that is he already went for that with his take on the Joker, which was not successful in Suicide Squad. He tried really, really hard to put a definitive spin post Heath Ledger on that character.
[00:18:29] Speaker A: It didn't work. Yeah.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: So, you know, but he has an Oscar. Like, I mean, he's. He has talent. He's pretty creepy in, like, Blade Runner 2049, but, yeah, you don't know what you're going to get totally.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:41] Speaker B: They kind of got a weird mix going because they've got a. I think it's right. They have an unknown. Right. Nicholas Galitzin, I think his name is. Is he? Man, that's good. I would rather have that than, like, somebody I already have a affinity for. And then they've cast Alison Brie, who is best known for community comedy. She's evil in.
And then they cast Camila Mendez, who's pretty young. She's like 28, 29, as Teela Tina. Yeah. So they've got. They've given you a couple of castings that are kind of on the younger side.
So I don't know what's. What this is going to look like, but I will say this. The number one thing the movie has going for it. Is Travis Knight directing it? That's it. I mean, Bumblebee is a good movie. Like, that is a legitimately good Transformers movie.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: And he directed that. And he also, I think, either nominated or won an Oscar for Kubo with the two strings. Like, he's not a joke. So that's, you know, if you're believing in this project after all these years where it's kicked around, that's why you believe in it, because Travis Knight's the one in charge.
But I'm, with you, skeptical. I'm skeptical. To pull off he man as a hit.
[00:19:55] Speaker A: It's tough.
Can it be done? That's the exciting part. Can it be done? Can they make it?
[00:20:02] Speaker B: Just don't put the line in. Don't do it. Don't Jared Leto the line?
Oh, God, no. If that's in the movie, that's an automatic, automatic thumbs down.
[00:20:16] Speaker A: Did it twice.
Anyway, let us know in the conversation below what you guys think of all that's happened in the DC world. Is it getting out of hand? Is it already without Superman even coming out yet? Is it already getting out of hand?
And derry little one being offered the role of skeletal, what are you think? I mean, you're gonna get a performance. You're gonna get a different take. You're gonna get somebody that's gonna try. Right. Not that Frank Langella didn't. I think he was probably one of the better parts of the original he man.
But do you have any hopes for he man?
It's hard for me to find.
It's hard for me to find hope for this movie, but we'll see. Any last words, Brian?
[00:21:10] Speaker B: No, just like I said, next time we tape, we'll have a lot to talk about. We got Penguin, we got Agatha Christopher Reid documentary also would throw out phenomenal reviews for Transformer with one.
And so I think that also has potential to be a hit. So a lot going on.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Let us know in the comment section below. Please hit that like and subscribe button and we'll see you next time on another Jerry boy. The show goes on.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: It.
